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nearly everyone and anyone has now been able to gain access to the crime scene, except, that is, for fbi agents and now for them, it's no longer worth taking the risk to going to benghazi. but there is at least some indication tonight that enough is known about who did this to begin planning some kind of response. a senior american official telling us that the pentagon and intelligence community have begun preparing so-called target packages, detailed information that can be used to capture or kill some of the terrorists who did this. now, at the same time, though, the administration continues to come under withering fire, especially, not exclusively, from republican lawmakers over the killings and whether they might have been prevented some way. members of the house oversight committee today sent a letter to the state department asking for answers in person from secretary clinton, leveling serious allegations including these, the attack quote, was clearly never as administration officials once insisted, the result of a popular protest. more damningly, this, quote, multiple u.s. federal
nearly everyone and anyone has now been able to gain access to the crime scene, except, that is, for fbi agents and now for them, it's no longer worth taking the risk to going to benghazi. but there is at least some indication tonight that enough is known about who did this to begin planning some kind of response. a senior american official telling us that the pentagon and intelligence community have begun preparing so-called target packages, detailed information that can be used to capture or...
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military assets and set up the perimeter that the fbi needed. >> i mean, even theoretically, a lot of people will tweet in and say well, if you were able to get to it, how come some american investigators wouldn't be able to. i guess it's a question of how much time american investigators would want to spend to actually do a full, thorough forensic investigation. >> that's part of it, anderson, but the other piece to this is they represent -- when the american investigators go in, they represent the united states. there's a certain international respect for journalists. it's not -- it's plenty dangerous for arwa to be there but they represent -- >> it would be a heightened target, obviously. i guess part of it, too, if mortar fire was involved in the initial attack or rpg fire, if they were to come under fire, the investigators, they would want to be able to return fire to take out mortar positions, anti-battery positions and to do that, you would need a significant capability to return fire. >> that's exactly right. and everybody we've spoken to suggests that look, if we had to go in
military assets and set up the perimeter that the fbi needed. >> i mean, even theoretically, a lot of people will tweet in and say well, if you were able to get to it, how come some american investigators wouldn't be able to. i guess it's a question of how much time american investigators would want to spend to actually do a full, thorough forensic investigation. >> that's part of it, anderson, but the other piece to this is they represent -- when the american investigators go in,...
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a senior law enforcement official, telling fran townsend, the fbi wanted the u.s. military to provide perimeter support in benghazi, protection in other words, but that request was not granted. fran is a former white house homeland security adviser, serbed in the george w. bush administration. sits on the cia external advisory panel and recently visited libya with mcandrews & forbes. and former fbi assistant director tom pointes who has extensive experience in investigating attacks overseas. so there was military protection to go into benghazi, why didn't they get it? >> the answer to the question is not really clear. so it's not unusual, when you want to set up a security perimeter, you may look to the host country. if the host country is unable or unwilling to provide it, we don't know what the answer to that is, you may ask if you think you need it for u.s. military support, but that's got to go through a process. it needs state department and nsc support, the u.s. military would have to make an assessment about how big a security package that would entail and l
a senior law enforcement official, telling fran townsend, the fbi wanted the u.s. military to provide perimeter support in benghazi, protection in other words, but that request was not granted. fran is a former white house homeland security adviser, serbed in the george w. bush administration. sits on the cia external advisory panel and recently visited libya with mcandrews & forbes. and former fbi assistant director tom pointes who has extensive experience in investigating attacks...
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did they answer you, the fbi? >> they haven't answered us yet but we will stay on it until they give us an answer why they allow the accounts to exist where they recruit people to murder us. >> judge jeanine: and congressman, are is it true they are actually tweeting news flashes from the jihaddist fronts on twitter? >> yes. of course. they use twitter just like anybody else and it is an update a constant update of what they are doing, what other organizations is are doing. and also promoting violence against the united states, americans, and specifically. and the fbi needs to look into this. they can take down these accounts. we would hope that they would. >> judge jeanine: congressman poe from texas joining us from houston. thanks so much. and stay on that one. that is pretty outrageous. using twin citieser to further jihaddist agenda.rther a >> the nfl referees are back but the battle may be just beginning. >> judge jeanine: the nightmare is over. the sniffle nfl referee striked blown call heard round the world
did they answer you, the fbi? >> they haven't answered us yet but we will stay on it until they give us an answer why they allow the accounts to exist where they recruit people to murder us. >> judge jeanine: and congressman, are is it true they are actually tweeting news flashes from the jihaddist fronts on twitter? >> yes. of course. they use twitter just like anybody else and it is an update a constant update of what they are doing, what other organizations is are doing....
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the fbi said in a statement, there are strong preliminary indications that the death of nicholas ivy was the result of -- the injured agent was released from the hospital on wednesday. >>> a radical islamist clerk is on the way to the united states after losing his latest and final appeal to avoid that fate. judge john thomas said the extradition may proceed immediately. some of the supporters clashed with police outside of the high court. he faces 11 charges in the united states, including conspireing in 1999 to set up an islam jihad training camp in oregon. rebel fighters shot down a helicopter over the the damascus country side. this video supposedly shows. cnn cannot verify its authenticity. another opposition group known as the local coordination committees for syria says 110 were killed by syrian forces across the country just today. former university of tennessee basketball coach pat summitt says she was not forced after her job after being diagnosed with di min. she says anyone who knows me knows that any such effort would have been met with resistance -- as the head coach of
the fbi said in a statement, there are strong preliminary indications that the death of nicholas ivy was the result of -- the injured agent was released from the hospital on wednesday. >>> a radical islamist clerk is on the way to the united states after losing his latest and final appeal to avoid that fate. judge john thomas said the extradition may proceed immediately. some of the supporters clashed with police outside of the high court. he faces 11 charges in the united states,...
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fbi investigators now confirming who they believe pulled the trigger in the shooting of that u.s. border patrol agent earlier this week. and a recall on peanut butter is expanding tonight. reports young children getting sick. what you need to know to stay safe. that's coming up inside "the fox report." stay close. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no surprise millions have chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help cover some of th
fbi investigators now confirming who they believe pulled the trigger in the shooting of that u.s. border patrol agent earlier this week. and a recall on peanut butter is expanding tonight. reports young children getting sick. what you need to know to stay safe. that's coming up inside "the fox report." stay close. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and...
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there was an fbi investigation, no charges were filed but -- >> that explains why the rnc would not want his name on their docket or close to them. >> and i should say, you know, there continued to be allegations about him. just last year there were allegations about a recall petition in a town in arizona in which he was linked -- >> we're going to keep up with this because you're great and because i love the irony of the fact that the republicans have been yelling about fraud, there they got caught with their own problem and it's a serious bun. >> thai judith brown di anise. >>> up next president obama spent a lot of time looking at his notes. he must have known about -- james lipton joins us for a review of how the actors perform. this is "hardball," the place for politics and theater tonight. . >>> i've got some new poll numbers in some key senate races today. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. in connecticut a poll shows republican linda mcmahon with a one-point lead over democrat chris murphy in that senate race for the seat held by joe lieberman. mcmahon, 48%, murphy, 47%. i th
there was an fbi investigation, no charges were filed but -- >> that explains why the rnc would not want his name on their docket or close to them. >> and i should say, you know, there continued to be allegations about him. just last year there were allegations about a recall petition in a town in arizona in which he was linked -- >> we're going to keep up with this because you're great and because i love the irony of the fact that the republicans have been yelling about...
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the fbi. that's not nearly enough. here's the question, why did president obama do so poorly at last night's debate? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile, post a comment on the blog or go to our post on "the situation room" facebook page. >> good question, jack. >>> bored, aloof, even arrogant, some of the words critics are using to describe the president's performance at last night's debate. up next i'll ask his press secretary to explain the performance what was going on. plus, pursed lips and raised eyebrows. how one expert uses special software to measure the candidates' expressions. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >>> the obama campaign is fighting back today even as the
the fbi. that's not nearly enough. here's the question, why did president obama do so poorly at last night's debate? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile, post a comment on the blog or go to our post on "the situation room" facebook page. >> good question, jack. >>> bored, aloof, even arrogant, some of the words critics are using to describe the president's performance at last night's debate. up next i'll ask his press secretary to explain the performance what was going on. plus,...
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the fact that an fbi agent can't be in there yet is a crime in and of itself. this administration has a lot to answer for. they want the foreign policy to be the election policy and now it's front and center. >> eric: is the administration lying? is there a coverup? >> no, i don't think they are lying at all. i think their response is less than commanding. the first information you get from a crisis overseas is imperfect, wrong or it will change or a few days. it is not a question, that there were late to rolls release on friday afternoon, an update that, yes, this was a planned attack. but the defining issue is here the security of the compound. we know that the british ambassador, the united nations office and the red cross office in benghazi had been attacked recently, prior to the attack and the murder of our wonderful ambassador there. but the equivalent what have it costs to keep one member in afghanistan half a year is the protection we gave the consulate. who is to blame? i think the administration needs to take on board we are not protecting our warrio
the fact that an fbi agent can't be in there yet is a crime in and of itself. this administration has a lot to answer for. they want the foreign policy to be the election policy and now it's front and center. >> eric: is the administration lying? is there a coverup? >> no, i don't think they are lying at all. i think their response is less than commanding. the first information you get from a crisis overseas is imperfect, wrong or it will change or a few days. it is not a question,...
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wants to know more than she and the president what happened in benghazi, but we've confirmed that the fbi has not been able to get on the ground because of continuing security concerns, and at this point, more documents, secret and sensitive documents like this one, are still at large in that site being secured only by libyans at the scene and not well indeed. >> and on top of that there were demonstrators on the strts of tehran today because the currency there has collapsed. but we remind everybody that tonight's debate is at least supposed to be about domestic and economic items. andrea mitchell, we'll talk to you later tonight. >>> even given the clear and distinct choice between those two candidates this year, yes, there are still undecided voters who will be watching and listening for their own specifics in tonight's debate. and tonight tom brokaw reports on voters in the battleground state of colorado, of course, playing host for tonight's debate. >> reporter: in the presidential battle for colorado, the old western town of golden in jefferson county is one of the epicenters. it's a
wants to know more than she and the president what happened in benghazi, but we've confirmed that the fbi has not been able to get on the ground because of continuing security concerns, and at this point, more documents, secret and sensitive documents like this one, are still at large in that site being secured only by libyans at the scene and not well indeed. >> and on top of that there were demonstrators on the strts of tehran today because the currency there has collapsed. but we...
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military team escorted fbi investigators to the site. the pentagon says both teams left benghazi a short time ago. the fbi team had been stalled for three weeks because of security concerns there at the particular site in benghazi. thank you so much for being with me today. i'm brooke baldwin. let's send you to washington. "the situation room" with wolf blitzer begins now. >>> brooke, thanks very much. happening now, president obama back on the campaign trail after a lackluster debate performance. he's about to speak in madison, wisconsin. we're going to hear from him live this hour as he tries to recover. also, we'll hear live from mitt romney. he's now campaigning with new energy and momentum after his showing in the debate last night. plus, big bird thrust into campaign politics and on the defensive. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> only 33 days to election and an entirely new dynamic in the battle between president obama and mitt romney. the republican nominee is widely seen as the winner of last night's debate w
military team escorted fbi investigators to the site. the pentagon says both teams left benghazi a short time ago. the fbi team had been stalled for three weeks because of security concerns there at the particular site in benghazi. thank you so much for being with me today. i'm brooke baldwin. let's send you to washington. "the situation room" with wolf blitzer begins now. >>> brooke, thanks very much. happening now, president obama back on the campaign trail after a...
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the fbi goes. they investigate. i think it is pretty clear that the crime scene is not going to be of much use. they view it as a crime scene. i view it as a scene of a terrorist attack won't be much use to them after all this time but the administration seems to be reverting pre-9/11 mentality and trying to construct facts in order to support that approach to terrorism and it is not approach that will keep us safe. martha: you think it is a dangerous posture. liz, thanks so much. >> thanks martha. bill: a lot to talk about this. kt mcfarland will stop by next hour. we will pick her brain. she has three big issues. >>> 30 two days until america votes. exclusive interview with the man at a center of a voter registration fraud scandal in a critical battleground state. how he is now defending himself. we'll have that for. >> in the wake of wednesday night's big debate, democrats calling governor romney a liar. a nasty new turn of the campaign. we'll debate some of this fair and balanced. you decide. we'll be back in "a
the fbi goes. they investigate. i think it is pretty clear that the crime scene is not going to be of much use. they view it as a crime scene. i view it as a scene of a terrorist attack won't be much use to them after all this time but the administration seems to be reverting pre-9/11 mentality and trying to construct facts in order to support that approach to terrorism and it is not approach that will keep us safe. martha: you think it is a dangerous posture. liz, thanks so much. >>...
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. >> it's important to know that there's an fbi investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. that will tell us with certainty what transpired but our current best assessment based on the information that we have at present is that in fact, what this began as was a spontaneous, not a premeditated response to what had transpired in cairo. in cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated. >> the u.n. ambassador susan rice. two sundays ago, took another three days before the administration began acknowledging what many experts say should have been obvious. >> let me begin by asking you whether you would say that ambassador stevens and the three other americans died as a result of a terrorist attack. >> certainly on that particular question, i would say yes. they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy. >> two days later, secretary of state clinton made it even plainer. >> what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack and we will not r
. >> it's important to know that there's an fbi investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. that will tell us with certainty what transpired but our current best assessment based on the information that we have at present is that in fact, what this began as was a spontaneous, not a premeditated response to what had transpired in cairo. in cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive...
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one, fbi investigators have finally arrived more than three weeks late to investigate the site in libya where terrorists killed our ambassador and three others. two, turkey fired on syrian government targets today following yesterday's deadly attack on a border village. and 3, in iran police continue to crack down on protests amid flairing tensions over the nation's plunging currency. so iran is the currency collapse going to lead to a revolution? here now is former deputy assistant secretary of defense the currency is off about 40%. steve hanke of johns hopkins, an old friend, is estimating that the inflation rate per month in iran is now 70%. per month inflation rate. so nobody wants reals, 70% inflation. stocks are -- they can't get rid of the meat on the shelves. is this a revolutionary situation through currencies, money and inflation? >> it certainly could be, larry. even the europeans are talking about doing a little more of this. diplomacy has failed in getting at iran's nuclear program. so economic sanctions are the next step short of military action. but i think there's a poss
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twenty days the fbi is in libya, the fbi, megyn, is not in benghazi. megyn: trace, thank you. >>> well, the president's team fielding tough new questions over the weekend about whether president obama should have chosen to campaign the day we learned -- we, the american people -- learned that terrorists add attacked and killed four americans including our ambassador and our consulate in libya. >> was it ip appropriate for him to go to a fundraiser the day after this attack? now in retrospect knowing that it was a terrorist attack, inappropriate for him to engage in politics as usual? megyn: we will debate the answer from chief adviser david plouffe ahead, fair and can balanced. >>> then, growing outrage over a suggestion to use your federal money to bail out states in trouble. there are [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ r
twenty days the fbi is in libya, the fbi, megyn, is not in benghazi. megyn: trace, thank you. >>> well, the president's team fielding tough new questions over the weekend about whether president obama should have chosen to campaign the day we learned -- we, the american people -- learned that terrorists add attacked and killed four americans including our ambassador and our consulate in libya. >> was it ip appropriate for him to go to a fundraiser the day after this attack? now...
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united states will have to fbi way in various sites of authority institutional authority. and so that is a what i think is the future of renegotiating the liberal world order. but again the up fundamental point is that most of the countries rising up are rising up precisely because they are in it. they want to be in it. and the trade that comes from open pes and the rules that provides rising statementses protections against precisely what we were talking about before. arbitrary and discriminate power. i think there are new constituencies for liberal order. they have to be brought to the table and have to be given respect and the kind of level playing field that you associate with liberal international order. >> there are two dimensions to this that strike me as potentially worrisome. i would like to frame them and jessica and tom respond. one we look at the -- [inaudible] international institutions and we scrolled some cause for concern. right, global warming is an issue within the institution that were created to deal with it have come up short thus far. international tr
united states will have to fbi way in various sites of authority institutional authority. and so that is a what i think is the future of renegotiating the liberal world order. but again the up fundamental point is that most of the countries rising up are rising up precisely because they are in it. they want to be in it. and the trade that comes from open pes and the rules that provides rising statementses protections against precisely what we were talking about before. arbitrary and...
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certainly had a part in overturning a dictator, muammar gadhafi, and now we have a situation where the fbi, we are told, won't even go to benghazi, which was the seat of the rebel which was the seat of the rebel the folks that we supported because it's so dangerous there, so they're investigate this from a tripoli, which is 400 miles away. what does that tell you, a -- >> thousands of libyans demonstrated. they went after these militia extremists which are al qaeda-affiliated themselves. the united states is more popular in libya than any country in the arab world, but they need help. after it was over, did we give them the assistance they needed? no. their borders are porous. al qaeda is coming in. they don't have a strong government. they have a people that like the united states of america. in afghanistan we are having americans killed by "insiders." >> the troops that we're training. >> yeah. >> forces we are training in uniform. they just inflicted the greatest damage on kandahar since the tet offensive. they blew up irreplaceable aircraft, and it's because the president has consisten
certainly had a part in overturning a dictator, muammar gadhafi, and now we have a situation where the fbi, we are told, won't even go to benghazi, which was the seat of the rebel which was the seat of the rebel the folks that we supported because it's so dangerous there, so they're investigate this from a tripoli, which is 400 miles away. what does that tell you, a -- >> thousands of libyans demonstrated. they went after these militia extremists which are al qaeda-affiliated themselves....
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. >> reporter: neither does retired fbi agent john anthony who worked the hoffa case. he gives the tip zero credibility. >> whether they find a body or not i don't know. if they do, i guarantee you it is not jimmy hoffa. >> reporter: he says they have a good idea who pulled off the hit and where but it sure isn't in this neighborhood. >> reporter: why could the fbi never find the body? >> because there is nobody. the body in our opinion was cremated or thrown into a vat of acid. >> reporter: whatever happened the mafia backed teamster boss is legendary sell braid in moce movies like this one going up against robert kennedy. >> i don't need that and my -- >> reporter: tips had him buried in settlement near the end zone of old giants' stadium and the floorboards dug up of a detroit home and horse farm. still trying to pinpoint why his fate still captivates so many people. >> he was a gifted individual, powerful, negotiate. combine that with his mysterious disappearance and the connection with the underworld and the mob. >> reporter: now, the question is will police crack
. >> reporter: neither does retired fbi agent john anthony who worked the hoffa case. he gives the tip zero credibility. >> whether they find a body or not i don't know. if they do, i guarantee you it is not jimmy hoffa. >> reporter: he says they have a good idea who pulled off the hit and where but it sure isn't in this neighborhood. >> reporter: why could the fbi never find the body? >> because there is nobody. the body in our opinion was cremated or thrown into...
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breaking news you will only see right here on "360" after being the first to tell you that fbi investigators have not set foot in the ruins of the american consulate of benghazi, libya. tonight, we're the first it tell you why. the likely reason and from a top law enforcement official. four americans as you know were murdered in the assault, one american ambassador, christopher stevens, that was 2 1/2 weeks ago, 2 1/2 weeks, that saw the administration describe this first as a spontan
breaking news you will only see right here on "360" after being the first to tell you that fbi investigators have not set foot in the ruins of the american consulate of benghazi, libya. tonight, we're the first it tell you why. the likely reason and from a top law enforcement official. four americans as you know were murdered in the assault, one american ambassador, christopher stevens, that was 2 1/2 weeks ago, 2 1/2 weeks, that saw the administration describe this first as a spontan
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the lucky owner was supposed to auction it off, but the fbi says uh-uh, they cancelled it. as brian todd explains, it's all over a crime committed more than 60 years ago. >> it's 5.5 x 9 inches, titled "on the shore of the tseng", this landscape has made a mysterious journey. >> this is what we fantasize about finding a great treasure somewhere. >> doreen's institution once had that renoir on display, owned by a well-known local art patron. more than 60 years ago the painting was lifted. the circumstances around the theft of the painting are not clear, but this is the library's record of the painting, the card saying it was lent here, this notation saying it was stolen from the museum in 1951, only about five months after thelend died fast forward to 2010 a woman at the flee market is a attracted to a nondescript box. >> she paidp $7 for a cardboard box full of miscellaneous items. >> reporter: including a doll, a plastic dog and the lost lost renoir. an auction house in alexandria, virginia, where it's being kept now. what happened between high-end heist and flee market ha
the lucky owner was supposed to auction it off, but the fbi says uh-uh, they cancelled it. as brian todd explains, it's all over a crime committed more than 60 years ago. >> it's 5.5 x 9 inches, titled "on the shore of the tseng", this landscape has made a mysterious journey. >> this is what we fantasize about finding a great treasure somewhere. >> doreen's institution once had that renoir on display, owned by a well-known local art patron. more than 60 years ago the...
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first of all there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. putting together the best information we have available to us today, our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. >> p.j., did she say too much there? >> i mean, those were evidently some talking points that had come out of the intelligence community. i think today the tilt is more towards this was planned attack. there had been some milling around near the embassy -- near the consulate beforehand. we obviously know more today than we did and have a greater perspective today now that we have people back, interviewing them and multiple investigations going on as susan rice said. but, you know, we still don't have the definitive view on what exactly happened and what we should do about it. >> i want to open this up to our panel here. in terms of how this plays out on the campaign trail, the general thinking is foreign policy isn't go
first of all there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. putting together the best information we have available to us today, our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. >> p.j., did she say too much there? >> i mean, those were evidently some talking points that had come out of the...
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. >>> in libya thursday fbi agents and other investigators visited what's left of the american consulate in benghazi. their first visit came three weeks after the attack that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. officials tells cbs news there were repeated requests for additional security before the attack. so what are we finding out about that security and are we getting the answers that we need? >> well, we're going to be learning more. but what we're learning now is that there were a drum beat of incidents, about 13 security threats either directly to the embassy, to the consulate, a handful of those but then incidents surrounding in the surrounding area against british, red cross and so on. this was building up. >> why didn't ambassador stevens go to benghazi and did they appreciate the danger and did they, in fact, have enough security for him. >> okay. this is a fascinating question. this is where our story forks off in two different directions. i've been to embassies all over the world and i've seen how security works. when it comes to ambassador whether he m
. >>> in libya thursday fbi agents and other investigators visited what's left of the american consulate in benghazi. their first visit came three weeks after the attack that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. officials tells cbs news there were repeated requests for additional security before the attack. so what are we finding out about that security and are we getting the answers that we need? >> well, we're going to be learning more. but what we're...